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	<title>Comments on: Are Moonkins the New Mages?</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jandrae</title>
		<link>http://www.locksucks.com/2008/07/are-moonkins-the-new-mages/#comment-617</link>
		<dc:creator>Jandrae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 17:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you spec in to Force of Nature for the treants, Brambles may not be a bad idea in WOTLK since it will increase the damage done by them and will also give your treants and Thorns spell a chance to daze on hit.

Blood Pact, Paladin aura &#38; Shaman totems will now effect the entire raid but no word yet on LOTP and Moonkin Aura. If thats the case it should be easier for us to find raiding guilds (what raid wouldn't want every caster and healer to have +5% crit?) but will most likely limit any 25-man group to 1 Moonkin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you spec in to Force of Nature for the treants, Brambles may not be a bad idea in WOTLK since it will increase the damage done by them and will also give your treants and Thorns spell a chance to daze on hit.</p>
<p>Blood Pact, Paladin aura &amp; Shaman totems will now effect the entire raid but no word yet on LOTP and Moonkin Aura. If thats the case it should be easier for us to find raiding guilds (what raid wouldn&#8217;t want every caster and healer to have +5% crit?) but will most likely limit any 25-man group to 1 Moonkin.</p>
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		<title>By: Galoheart</title>
		<link>http://www.locksucks.com/2008/07/are-moonkins-the-new-mages/#comment-550</link>
		<dc:creator>Galoheart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 01:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can say for sure a good Moonkin can find a spot on any my Heroic runs when I'm Tanking. They make run go allot faster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can say for sure a good Moonkin can find a spot on any my Heroic runs when I&#8217;m Tanking. They make run go allot faster.</p>
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		<title>By: Horns</title>
		<link>http://www.locksucks.com/2008/07/are-moonkins-the-new-mages/#comment-549</link>
		<dc:creator>Horns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Greenhair

Thanks for the compliments.
I'm guessing you're using &lt;a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27891" rel="nofollow"&gt;Adamantine Figurine&lt;/a&gt; - it gives you about 2% damage mitigation, I'm guessing there are far better trinkets out there - Quagmirran's being one of them, which shows in &lt;a href="http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Shandris&#038;n=Greenhair" rel="nofollow"&gt;your armory profile&lt;/a&gt; atm - I think that's the right link.

I did play dreamstate build for awhile in 3v3, but we were kind of stuck at 1900 rating so I decided it would be easier to just go resto; it does take a lot of practice to know when to heal and when to dps, but one things for sure - I can deal with rogues and warriors soooo much easier. You don't have to switch bear for armor bonus, and since Cyclone &#038; Roots are castable in Moonkin Form, there's a lot less shifting involved. Not having Swiftmend though is a major drawback and I can't seem to get used to it. One thing you should always keep in mind is having Abolish Poison up when fighting rogues - it's unfortunately not usable in doomkin, but as soon as you get a chance to switch to caster, you should pop it - that's why CC is there.

What are you waiting for with your warlock? Gear is pretty decent, even if you're not particularly skilled you should be able to get 1700 easily. Get that gear enchanted, and replace those vendored green gems and go get owned by rogues.


@Graylo

Actually I think I read that, but it didn't struck me till you mentioned. I'll edit the post, thanks for giving me extra work bastard!



Just kidding. 




About the thanks part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Greenhair</p>
<p>Thanks for the compliments.<br />
I&#8217;m guessing you&#8217;re using <a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27891" rel="nofollow">Adamantine Figurine</a> - it gives you about 2% damage mitigation, I&#8217;m guessing there are far better trinkets out there - Quagmirran&#8217;s being one of them, which shows in <a href="http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Shandris&#038;n=Greenhair" rel="nofollow">your armory profile</a> atm - I think that&#8217;s the right link.</p>
<p>I did play dreamstate build for awhile in 3v3, but we were kind of stuck at 1900 rating so I decided it would be easier to just go resto; it does take a lot of practice to know when to heal and when to dps, but one things for sure - I can deal with rogues and warriors soooo much easier. You don&#8217;t have to switch bear for armor bonus, and since Cyclone &#038; Roots are castable in Moonkin Form, there&#8217;s a lot less shifting involved. Not having Swiftmend though is a major drawback and I can&#8217;t seem to get used to it. One thing you should always keep in mind is having Abolish Poison up when fighting rogues - it&#8217;s unfortunately not usable in doomkin, but as soon as you get a chance to switch to caster, you should pop it - that&#8217;s why CC is there.</p>
<p>What are you waiting for with your warlock? Gear is pretty decent, even if you&#8217;re not particularly skilled you should be able to get 1700 easily. Get that gear enchanted, and replace those vendored green gems and go get owned by rogues.</p>
<p>@Graylo</p>
<p>Actually I think I read that, but it didn&#8217;t struck me till you mentioned. I&#8217;ll edit the post, thanks for giving me extra work bastard!</p>
<p>Just kidding. </p>
<p>About the thanks part.</p>
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		<title>By: Graylo</title>
		<link>http://www.locksucks.com/2008/07/are-moonkins-the-new-mages/#comment-548</link>
		<dc:creator>Graylo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moonkin don't get any extra threat help in the alpha. Nature's reach does reduce threat by 30% but Subtlety is now restricted to just resto spells. So we are stuck with 30% still.

Good post though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moonkin don&#8217;t get any extra threat help in the alpha. Nature&#8217;s reach does reduce threat by 30% but Subtlety is now restricted to just resto spells. So we are stuck with 30% still.</p>
<p>Good post though.</p>
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		<title>By: Greenhair</title>
		<link>http://www.locksucks.com/2008/07/are-moonkins-the-new-mages/#comment-547</link>
		<dc:creator>Greenhair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Horns I agree with you.  

BTW great site.  Its especially cool cause its not blocked by the government restrictions, WOOT, i can get a WoW fix at work now!!!  So ima little late seeing patients, they probably showed up late anyways!

Ok that said, onto moonkin, which I will focus on PvP, since that is what i usually do.  Feel free to check out my armory (hes in all vengeful resto gear ATM with some new stuff).  Im on the shandris server.  PvP moonkin is great.  I can solo a rogue on my moonkin in the arena, usually, if they arent in S3 weapons with a rating over 2k.  Even if they are I can last a LONNNNG time with them.  The armor bonus is really amazing, plus you can cast barkskin every minute.. very nice.  Sometimes if i go moonkin I run with a trinket (cant member the name) that adds like 1k armor every 2 min for 20 seconds, that helps in a bind too.  Moonfire + trees + entangle is nice.  Plus no knockback with cyclone is sweet too.  I bust out of moonkin often as soon as cyclone hits and rejuv, lifbloom, swiftmend, rejuv ( me or my bud depending on), back to boomkin.  Trees actually do decent damage, and i hug the pillars like a hippy high on life in the amazon rainforest, surrounded by a construction company.  And surprisingly it works.  just keep a fresh moon fire on everyone and hope your partner beats out their partner.  

You actually shine pretty well in 3s and 5s too, especially when the first person on your team to die is the healer, and the first on their team is the healer as you can heal pretty darn well, as long as you spam cyclone on the inevitable rogue.  entangling roots + cyclone vs a warrior team... control heaven baby.  couple that with pillar humping... your the man.  mana problems.. you have inervate.  mana drains on you... bear, feral charge, bash, lacerate, maul... moonkin again baby.  

Moonkin is vastly underrated and underutilized. Moonkin with pyroblast instant cast mage...nice damage.  Moonkin with resto or elemental shaman... very sick.

Im trying my lock right now though.... havent done any new arenas yet, just farming gear, but im all purple so.... will prolly try in a couple of weeks.  You can check her out on the armory.  Outburst on Kul Tiras.  

Anyways keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Horns I agree with you.  </p>
<p>BTW great site.  Its especially cool cause its not blocked by the government restrictions, WOOT, i can get a WoW fix at work now!!!  So ima little late seeing patients, they probably showed up late anyways!</p>
<p>Ok that said, onto moonkin, which I will focus on PvP, since that is what i usually do.  Feel free to check out my armory (hes in all vengeful resto gear ATM with some new stuff).  Im on the shandris server.  PvP moonkin is great.  I can solo a rogue on my moonkin in the arena, usually, if they arent in S3 weapons with a rating over 2k.  Even if they are I can last a LONNNNG time with them.  The armor bonus is really amazing, plus you can cast barkskin every minute.. very nice.  Sometimes if i go moonkin I run with a trinket (cant member the name) that adds like 1k armor every 2 min for 20 seconds, that helps in a bind too.  Moonfire + trees + entangle is nice.  Plus no knockback with cyclone is sweet too.  I bust out of moonkin often as soon as cyclone hits and rejuv, lifbloom, swiftmend, rejuv ( me or my bud depending on), back to boomkin.  Trees actually do decent damage, and i hug the pillars like a hippy high on life in the amazon rainforest, surrounded by a construction company.  And surprisingly it works.  just keep a fresh moon fire on everyone and hope your partner beats out their partner.  </p>
<p>You actually shine pretty well in 3s and 5s too, especially when the first person on your team to die is the healer, and the first on their team is the healer as you can heal pretty darn well, as long as you spam cyclone on the inevitable rogue.  entangling roots + cyclone vs a warrior team&#8230; control heaven baby.  couple that with pillar humping&#8230; your the man.  mana problems.. you have inervate.  mana drains on you&#8230; bear, feral charge, bash, lacerate, maul&#8230; moonkin again baby.  </p>
<p>Moonkin is vastly underrated and underutilized. Moonkin with pyroblast instant cast mage&#8230;nice damage.  Moonkin with resto or elemental shaman&#8230; very sick.</p>
<p>Im trying my lock right now though&#8230;. havent done any new arenas yet, just farming gear, but im all purple so&#8230;. will prolly try in a couple of weeks.  You can check her out on the armory.  Outburst on Kul Tiras.  </p>
<p>Anyways keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Horns</title>
		<link>http://www.locksucks.com/2008/07/are-moonkins-the-new-mages/#comment-546</link>
		<dc:creator>Horns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The perfect bait; gotta do it more often, especially with this &lt;a href="http://www.wowinsider.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;crazy bunch&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The perfect bait; gotta do it more often, especially with this <a href="http://www.wowinsider.com/" rel="nofollow">crazy bunch</a></p>
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		<title>By: Phaelia</title>
		<link>http://www.locksucks.com/2008/07/are-moonkins-the-new-mages/#comment-545</link>
		<dc:creator>Phaelia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You so got me. Calling a woman crazy is a surefire way to get a reaction. LOL ^_^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You so got me. Calling a woman crazy is a surefire way to get a reaction. LOL ^_^</p>
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		<title>By: Horns</title>
		<link>http://www.locksucks.com/2008/07/are-moonkins-the-new-mages/#comment-544</link>
		<dc:creator>Horns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't worry, you're not crazy, that's just my way of making you come here and comment ;)

What I like about resto druids, unlike other classes we can actually pick up ALL the good healing talents, and still have a few points to spare for talents like brambles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry, you&#8217;re not crazy, that&#8217;s just my way of making you come here and comment <img src='http://www.locksucks.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>What I like about resto druids, unlike other classes we can actually pick up ALL the good healing talents, and still have a few points to spare for talents like brambles.</p>
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		<title>By: Phaelia</title>
		<link>http://www.locksucks.com/2008/07/are-moonkins-the-new-mages/#comment-543</link>
		<dc:creator>Phaelia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Were I specced for Balance primarily, I might not pick up Brambles as -- you're right -- there are better places to allocate those three talent points that would better lend themselves to the DPS role.

However, the point of the post you link above is that for a &lt;em&gt;Restoration&lt;/em&gt; Druid, picking up Brambles augments your tank's threat generation and, therefore, helps you do your job better. In fact, the overall threat generated increases as the number of mobs does (while healing threat generated decreases).

I'm &lt;em&gt;very&lt;/em&gt; excited for the expansion which will make Thorns and Brambles even better, with much higher damage values and a chance to daze that will increase your tank's threat even more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Were I specced for Balance primarily, I might not pick up Brambles as &#8212; you&#8217;re right &#8212; there are better places to allocate those three talent points that would better lend themselves to the DPS role.</p>
<p>However, the point of the post you link above is that for a <em>Restoration</em> Druid, picking up Brambles augments your tank&#8217;s threat generation and, therefore, helps you do your job better. In fact, the overall threat generated increases as the number of mobs does (while healing threat generated decreases).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m <em>very</em> excited for the expansion which will make Thorns and Brambles even better, with much higher damage values and a chance to daze that will increase your tank&#8217;s threat even more.</p>
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