Comments on: Spellstone and Firestone to Get Some (Much Needed) Love? http://www.locksucks.com/2008/08/spellstone-and-firestone-to-get-some-much-needed-love/ Fat cows with grounding totems stuck up their ass Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:35:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: unyuzyall http://www.locksucks.com/2008/08/spellstone-and-firestone-to-get-some-much-needed-love/comment-page-1/#comment-1344 unyuzyall Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:56:15 +0000 http://www.locksucks.com/?p=585#comment-1344 Nope, they don't stack with oils. Nope, they don’t stack with oils.

]]> By: Rockeroad http://www.locksucks.com/2008/08/spellstone-and-firestone-to-get-some-much-needed-love/comment-page-1/#comment-738 Rockeroad Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:33:43 +0000 http://www.locksucks.com/?p=585#comment-738 THank god, new stones. I always used these at low levels when wands sucked balls and it was hard to find unless they were from enchanting. But if these stack with oils we will be GODS once again(as if were not now). Be even cooler if we could trade these with people and make a kind of "stonewell" out of them =D THank god, new stones. I always used these at low levels when wands sucked balls and it was hard to find unless they were from enchanting. But if these stack with oils we will be GODS once again(as if were not now). Be even cooler if we could trade these with people and make a kind of “stonewell” out of them =D

]]> By: Saresa http://www.locksucks.com/2008/08/spellstone-and-firestone-to-get-some-much-needed-love/comment-page-1/#comment-727 Saresa Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:09:21 +0000 http://www.locksucks.com/?p=585#comment-727 Ooooh, exciting news! If these stack with oils, we would truly be gods! Well... not that we aren't already ;) Ooooh, exciting news! If these stack with oils, we would truly be gods! Well… not that we aren’t already ;)

]]> By: Rubella http://www.locksucks.com/2008/08/spellstone-and-firestone-to-get-some-much-needed-love/comment-page-1/#comment-725 Rubella Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:20:47 +0000 http://www.locksucks.com/?p=585#comment-725 @Bristine Haste is a fantastic stat, especially when you have accumulated enough to lower the GCD to 1 second. For afflitionators (tm), this is nothing short of amazing in allowing the 4 key spells (UA, SL, Corruption and curse of choice) to go up in 4 seconds versus an unhasted 6 seconds. Add bane into the mix and you'll be filling that space with an extra shadowbolt (3 sec., reduced to 2.5 from bane, reduced to 2 sec. with the haste). This change in the spellstone gets a caster almost 8% to that magic moment (haste of 785 needed to lower GCD to one second, see http://www.wowwiki.com/Spell_haste#Global_Cooldown) Don't forget that haste affects channeled spells as well, and goes well with the new eradication talent in the affliction tree. Good point regarding Master Conjurer's placement in the demo tree. I can't imagine any build where I would have the talents to spend to get it, except maybe a new version of SL/SL. @Bristine

Haste is a fantastic stat, especially when you have accumulated enough to lower the GCD to 1 second. For afflitionators ™, this is nothing short of amazing in allowing the 4 key spells (UA, SL, Corruption and curse of choice) to go up in 4 seconds versus an unhasted 6 seconds. Add bane into the mix and you’ll be filling that space with an extra shadowbolt (3 sec., reduced to 2.5 from bane, reduced to 2 sec. with the haste).

This change in the spellstone gets a caster almost 8% to that magic moment (haste of 785 needed to lower GCD to one second, see http://www.wowwiki.com/Spell_haste#Global_Cooldown)

Don’t forget that haste affects channeled spells as well, and goes well with the new eradication talent in the affliction tree.

Good point regarding Master Conjurer’s placement in the demo tree. I can’t imagine any build where I would have the talents to spend to get it, except maybe a new version of SL/SL.

]]> By: Romil http://www.locksucks.com/2008/08/spellstone-and-firestone-to-get-some-much-needed-love/comment-page-1/#comment-724 Romil Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:16:59 +0000 http://www.locksucks.com/?p=585#comment-724 Ah, nice to see these stones actually have some use in PvE. Could come in handy for raiding. Extra crit and haste is a good thing. Ah, nice to see these stones actually have some use in PvE. Could come in handy for raiding. Extra crit and haste is a good thing.

]]> By: Bristine http://www.locksucks.com/2008/08/spellstone-and-firestone-to-get-some-much-needed-love/comment-page-1/#comment-722 Bristine Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:31:27 +0000 http://www.locksucks.com/?p=585#comment-722 Both of those stone are an interesting and welcome change, they are now made useful, but, I wonder why they are in the demonology tree, and yet, worst for demonologists... I'd like to see three stones, fire, for nukes, spell, for dots (without haste rating, because that is stupid), and another for 1% more demon crit, with a small amount of flat spell damage. The Firestone is a negligible amount of additional up-time on Demonic Pact, and offers very little for the warlock's overall dps, whereas for a destruction warlock it could equal more than 1-1.5% increase in damage done, the demonologist gains less than 1% Both of those stone are an interesting and welcome change, they are now made useful, but, I wonder why they are in the demonology tree, and yet, worst for demonologists…

I’d like to see three stones, fire, for nukes, spell, for dots (without haste rating, because that is stupid), and another for 1% more demon crit, with a small amount of flat spell damage.

The Firestone is a negligible amount of additional up-time on Demonic Pact, and offers very little for the warlock’s overall dps, whereas for a destruction warlock it could equal more than 1-1.5% increase in damage done, the demonologist gains less than 1%

]]> By: Horns http://www.locksucks.com/2008/08/spellstone-and-firestone-to-get-some-much-needed-love/comment-page-1/#comment-721 Horns Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:13:53 +0000 http://www.locksucks.com/?p=585#comment-721 Those new "stones" are much better than any wand you can get. Spellstone's dispel will certainly be missed in PvP, but not too much - I rarely used it after S2 when hordes or melee started smashing at us. I wouldn't mind another "stone" - absorbs 2,000 physical damage or something like that :) Those new “stones” are much better than any wand you can get.
Spellstone’s dispel will certainly be missed in PvP, but not too much - I rarely used it after S2 when hordes or melee started smashing at us.
I wouldn’t mind another “stone” - absorbs 2,000 physical damage or something like that :)

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