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	<title>Comments on: Tailoring in WotLK</title>
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	<description>Fat cows with grounding totems stuck up their ass</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: thyagobr</title>
		<link>http://www.locksucks.com/2008/08/tailoring-in-wotlk/comment-page-1/#comment-2111</link>
		<dc:creator>thyagobr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny, locks don`t have what to complain about their class, so they complain about professions? =D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, locks don`t have what to complain about their class, so they complain about professions? =D</p>
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		<title>By: Banburshe</title>
		<link>http://www.locksucks.com/2008/08/tailoring-in-wotlk/comment-page-1/#comment-2073</link>
		<dc:creator>Banburshe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 04:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>update on my previous comment, i have found it to have a 15 second internal cooldown which is imba, it does not scale with spell power but it can crit (imba). It procs very very often. This is quite good for pve and for frostmage pvp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>update on my previous comment, i have found it to have a 15 second internal cooldown which is imba, it does not scale with spell power but it can crit (imba). It procs very very often. This is quite good for pve and for frostmage pvp.</p>
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		<title>By: twilightsmuse</title>
		<link>http://www.locksucks.com/2008/08/tailoring-in-wotlk/comment-page-1/#comment-1753</link>
		<dc:creator>twilightsmuse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am surprised that Blizzard included a melee dps embroidery... because how many melee dpsers wear cloth and would otherwise benefit from tailoring?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am surprised that Blizzard included a melee dps embroidery&#8230; because how many melee dpsers wear cloth and would otherwise benefit from tailoring?</p>
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		<title>By: Banburshe</title>
		<link>http://www.locksucks.com/2008/08/tailoring-in-wotlk/comment-page-1/#comment-1684</link>
		<dc:creator>Banburshe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 01:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This guy got something completely wrong in his explanation of the cloak enchants. 300 mana return chance per chance is a healer specific enchant any dps wearing this enchant over  the new cloak haste enchants is a fool. The cloak enchant doing additional holy damage (800-1000) on spellcast is on ANY SPELL CAST. You do not need to be casting a holy spell to get this proc its just the magic damage of this proc is considered holy. Another note is that it might very well also scale with spell power. 800-1000 proc damage is good in its own right but receiving benefit from your spell power would make this IMBA ofcourse depending on proc rate + internal cooldown. 

 Read things carefully and understand the wording before u make expensive mistakes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This guy got something completely wrong in his explanation of the cloak enchants. 300 mana return chance per chance is a healer specific enchant any dps wearing this enchant over  the new cloak haste enchants is a fool. The cloak enchant doing additional holy damage (800-1000) on spellcast is on ANY SPELL CAST. You do not need to be casting a holy spell to get this proc its just the magic damage of this proc is considered holy. Another note is that it might very well also scale with spell power. 800-1000 proc damage is good in its own right but receiving benefit from your spell power would make this IMBA ofcourse depending on proc rate + internal cooldown. </p>
<p> Read things carefully and understand the wording before u make expensive mistakes.</p>
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		<title>By: Gardorian</title>
		<link>http://www.locksucks.com/2008/08/tailoring-in-wotlk/comment-page-1/#comment-1681</link>
		<dc:creator>Gardorian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 03:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe embrodery can be added to anyones cloak through the non-trade slot in the trade window... need to go home and test to confirm</description>
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		<title>By: Duke</title>
		<link>http://www.locksucks.com/2008/08/tailoring-in-wotlk/comment-page-1/#comment-1643</link>
		<dc:creator>Duke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 20:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Swordguard Embroidery could be useful for a Rogue, that's about all i can see using that</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Swordguard Embroidery could be useful for a Rogue, that&#8217;s about all i can see using that</p>
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		<title>By: Sanelunatic</title>
		<link>http://www.locksucks.com/2008/08/tailoring-in-wotlk/comment-page-1/#comment-1054</link>
		<dc:creator>Sanelunatic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 03:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YOU HAVE PICK A LEATHERWORKING SPECIALIZATION (there are three) TO MAKE THE USEFUL ITEMS. THE SPECIALIZATIONS WERE IMPLEMENTED PRE-BC, YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AND COMPLETE THE QUEST, YOU TURN IN A FEW EASY TO GET ITEMS (THAT'S IT, NOTHING TO IT), TO SPEC INTO ONE OF THEM.

I'm going to guess that you didn't play before badge loot..... and that you're not a tree, a moonkin, or a shaman (the LWing casting sets are pretty nice, especially for the broccoli stalks). I honestly don't know much about its uses for hunters, the hunters in my guild were all LWers though. And I think the bear set was decent in early raiding.

BEFORE badge loot LWing was one of very few places to get a decent chest, it requires elem LWing. Swiftstrike shoulders are very nice, the pattern does drop in Hyjal/BT so depending on the server it might be hard to find on the AH (assumming that you weren't raiding that content). The swiftstrike bracers aren't too shabby either, they're boe so, no you don't have to be a LW to have them, but hey, someone has to be able to make them.

Don't even compare drums to netherweave nets. Netherweave nets are almost completely useless. You might use them for shits and giggles in a bg if you're goofing around. On vashj some guilds that had afflic locks kiting striders used them, but having an elem shaman kite is one thousand times easier and with them kiting they make the nets pointless. Drums are essential in Sunwell. You can not down Bruttalas without them.

In comparison tailoring's benefits for casters does overwhelm the other professions's BoP items imo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YOU HAVE PICK A LEATHERWORKING SPECIALIZATION (there are three) TO MAKE THE USEFUL ITEMS. THE SPECIALIZATIONS WERE IMPLEMENTED PRE-BC, YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AND COMPLETE THE QUEST, YOU TURN IN A FEW EASY TO GET ITEMS (THAT&#8217;S IT, NOTHING TO IT), TO SPEC INTO ONE OF THEM.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to guess that you didn&#8217;t play before badge loot&#8230;.. and that you&#8217;re not a tree, a moonkin, or a shaman (the LWing casting sets are pretty nice, especially for the broccoli stalks). I honestly don&#8217;t know much about its uses for hunters, the hunters in my guild were all LWers though. And I think the bear set was decent in early raiding.</p>
<p>BEFORE badge loot LWing was one of very few places to get a decent chest, it requires elem LWing. Swiftstrike shoulders are very nice, the pattern does drop in Hyjal/BT so depending on the server it might be hard to find on the AH (assumming that you weren&#8217;t raiding that content). The swiftstrike bracers aren&#8217;t too shabby either, they&#8217;re boe so, no you don&#8217;t have to be a LW to have them, but hey, someone has to be able to make them.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t even compare drums to netherweave nets. Netherweave nets are almost completely useless. You might use them for shits and giggles in a bg if you&#8217;re goofing around. On vashj some guilds that had afflic locks kiting striders used them, but having an elem shaman kite is one thousand times easier and with them kiting they make the nets pointless. Drums are essential in Sunwell. You can not down Bruttalas without them.</p>
<p>In comparison tailoring&#8217;s benefits for casters does overwhelm the other professions&#8217;s BoP items imo.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
		<link>http://www.locksucks.com/2008/08/tailoring-in-wotlk/comment-page-1/#comment-880</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 10:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ROFL! I'm so going to do this next time I go there!!!

/cast net at Gruul.

TAKE THAT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ROFL! I&#8217;m so going to do this next time I go there!!!</p>
<p>/cast net at Gruul.</p>
<p>TAKE THAT!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.locksucks.com/2008/08/tailoring-in-wotlk/comment-page-1/#comment-758</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>300 mana proccing even 3 times a minute is an awesome enhancement.  That's 75 mp5.  (I am just making up this 3 times a minute thing by the way but even twice a minute is 50mp5).  This can add up to thousands of mana in an encounter which will make up for not being able to mana pot more than once.

As a warlock, you probably don't see the value in mana regen since you can lifetap, but other mana users can see the benefit.

Currently on my casters, I have to give up some other stats to have enough mana for some fights.  Extra mana regen means more of others things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>300 mana proccing even 3 times a minute is an awesome enhancement.  That&#8217;s 75 mp5.  (I am just making up this 3 times a minute thing by the way but even twice a minute is 50mp5).  This can add up to thousands of mana in an encounter which will make up for not being able to mana pot more than once.</p>
<p>As a warlock, you probably don&#8217;t see the value in mana regen since you can lifetap, but other mana users can see the benefit.</p>
<p>Currently on my casters, I have to give up some other stats to have enough mana for some fights.  Extra mana regen means more of others things.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonnyb</title>
		<link>http://www.locksucks.com/2008/08/tailoring-in-wotlk/comment-page-1/#comment-752</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonnyb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"We have drums, you have nets, those cancel out"
Now thats the stupidest thing I'we read in quite some time. GL netting Gruul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We have drums, you have nets, those cancel out&#8221;<br />
Now thats the stupidest thing I&#8217;we read in quite some time. GL netting Gruul</p>
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		<title>By: Rockeroad</title>
		<link>http://www.locksucks.com/2008/08/tailoring-in-wotlk/comment-page-1/#comment-739</link>
		<dc:creator>Rockeroad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ohh im a warlock and i will use the lightweave embroidery for the damage since it cant be resisted and yeah 300 mana isnt that much unless it procs just about every spellcast. to me these things make tailoring pretty good. I just want that magic carpet NOW! and i mean NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!! that thing will be so cool, flying around northrend on a carpet. makes me feeel like a genie =D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ohh im a warlock and i will use the lightweave embroidery for the damage since it cant be resisted and yeah 300 mana isnt that much unless it procs just about every spellcast. to me these things make tailoring pretty good. I just want that magic carpet NOW! and i mean NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!! that thing will be so cool, flying around northrend on a carpet. makes me feeel like a genie =D</p>
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		<title>By: FoxRings</title>
		<link>http://www.locksucks.com/2008/08/tailoring-in-wotlk/comment-page-1/#comment-729</link>
		<dc:creator>FoxRings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lightweave Embroidery will not be priest / pally specific.

The reason why holy dmg was picked was because its the most penetrating school (you can't get resist rating for it),
and the potential benifit to tankadins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lightweave Embroidery will not be priest / pally specific.</p>
<p>The reason why holy dmg was picked was because its the most penetrating school (you can&#8217;t get resist rating for it),<br />
and the potential benifit to tankadins.</p>
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		<title>By: zupa</title>
		<link>http://www.locksucks.com/2008/08/tailoring-in-wotlk/comment-page-1/#comment-720</link>
		<dc:creator>zupa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 06:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Embroiders a subtle pattern of light into your cloak, giving you a chance to cause an additional 800 to 1000 Holy damage when you damage an enemy with a spell.&lt;/i&gt;

"damage enemy with a spell"

sounds good to me!

PS:  I'm enjoying your site and adding you to my blogroll, like it or not :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Embroiders a subtle pattern of light into your cloak, giving you a chance to cause an additional 800 to 1000 Holy damage when you damage an enemy with a spell.</i></p>
<p>&#8220;damage enemy with a spell&#8221;</p>
<p>sounds good to me!</p>
<p>PS:  I&#8217;m enjoying your site and adding you to my blogroll, like it or not <img src='http://www.locksucks.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Romil</title>
		<link>http://www.locksucks.com/2008/08/tailoring-in-wotlk/comment-page-1/#comment-719</link>
		<dc:creator>Romil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 02:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't confirm that, but I assumed with a proc of Holy damage that you had to deliver a holy spell to get the proc.  But I could be wrong. Blizzard has done weirder things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t confirm that, but I assumed with a proc of Holy damage that you had to deliver a holy spell to get the proc.  But I could be wrong. Blizzard has done weirder things.</p>
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		<title>By: zupa</title>
		<link>http://www.locksucks.com/2008/08/tailoring-in-wotlk/comment-page-1/#comment-718</link>
		<dc:creator>zupa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 02:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the wording on those embroidery patters, it looks as though the lightweave one is the one to choose for any dps caster, over the restore 300 mana one.

It doesn't say you have to do damage with a HOLY spell, just any spell.  It will then proc holy damage, but that doesn't mean my mage can't cast a frostbolt, and proc a bonus 800+ holy damage.

I can only say this by the way the tooltips are worded, can anyone confirm?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the wording on those embroidery patters, it looks as though the lightweave one is the one to choose for any dps caster, over the restore 300 mana one.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t say you have to do damage with a HOLY spell, just any spell.  It will then proc holy damage, but that doesn&#8217;t mean my mage can&#8217;t cast a frostbolt, and proc a bonus 800+ holy damage.</p>
<p>I can only say this by the way the tooltips are worded, can anyone confirm?</p>
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		<title>By: Romil</title>
		<link>http://www.locksucks.com/2008/08/tailoring-in-wotlk/comment-page-1/#comment-717</link>
		<dc:creator>Romil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cause we know how many slow rugs there are in the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cause we know how many slow rugs there are in the game.</p>
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		<title>By: Horns</title>
		<link>http://www.locksucks.com/2008/08/tailoring-in-wotlk/comment-page-1/#comment-715</link>
		<dc:creator>Horns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't like those embroiders... They sure look interesting, but more RNG is never good.

Flying carpets look awesome lol, I especially like the part in the description where it says it's a "very fast rug"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t like those embroiders&#8230; They sure look interesting, but more RNG is never good.</p>
<p>Flying carpets look awesome lol, I especially like the part in the description where it says it&#8217;s a &#8220;very fast rug&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Romil</title>
		<link>http://www.locksucks.com/2008/08/tailoring-in-wotlk/comment-page-1/#comment-713</link>
		<dc:creator>Romil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll be interested to see if tailors get a similar mechanic as Blacksmiths are getting with the adding a socket ability. The embroiders are only useful it appears to tailors themselves, so their usefulness is limited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll be interested to see if tailors get a similar mechanic as Blacksmiths are getting with the adding a socket ability. The embroiders are only useful it appears to tailors themselves, so their usefulness is limited.</p>
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		<title>By: Romil</title>
		<link>http://www.locksucks.com/2008/08/tailoring-in-wotlk/comment-page-1/#comment-712</link>
		<dc:creator>Romil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't doubt that Leatherworking is useless. All crafting professions in my opinion need major rework.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t doubt that Leatherworking is useless. All crafting professions in my opinion need major rework.</p>
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		<title>By: Green Armadillo</title>
		<link>http://www.locksucks.com/2008/08/tailoring-in-wotlk/comment-page-1/#comment-711</link>
		<dc:creator>Green Armadillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The embroidery looks nice simply because the options in the cloak slots are rather limited for casters.  There's a threat enchant (irrelevant if you're a solo or PVP player), a penetration enchant (highly situational), or a variety of defensive enchants (armor/resist).  Also note that the Lightweave tooltip doesn't specify that the spell has to be a holy spell, so we could be talking a general damage proc like the SSO neck.  

I was a bit surprised to see the new spellthreads being so close in damage potential to the current Primal Nether versions.  There may be good money in running level 70 heroics for quick badges and nethers to use in crafting these and LW item enchants, if the level 80 versions are hard to get.  

As for profitability?  Well, honestly most professions struggle with that.  Blizzard would apparently rather have a system that everyone uses (and thus spends time on) than a system that confers great wealth on the few who make it to the top.  It does look like everyone is getting their own little piece of the item enhancement market (Blacksmiths get to add a socket to geat), which is bigger than the market for crafted gear, but the supply is probably always going to exceed demand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The embroidery looks nice simply because the options in the cloak slots are rather limited for casters.  There&#8217;s a threat enchant (irrelevant if you&#8217;re a solo or PVP player), a penetration enchant (highly situational), or a variety of defensive enchants (armor/resist).  Also note that the Lightweave tooltip doesn&#8217;t specify that the spell has to be a holy spell, so we could be talking a general damage proc like the SSO neck.  </p>
<p>I was a bit surprised to see the new spellthreads being so close in damage potential to the current Primal Nether versions.  There may be good money in running level 70 heroics for quick badges and nethers to use in crafting these and LW item enchants, if the level 80 versions are hard to get.  </p>
<p>As for profitability?  Well, honestly most professions struggle with that.  Blizzard would apparently rather have a system that everyone uses (and thus spends time on) than a system that confers great wealth on the few who make it to the top.  It does look like everyone is getting their own little piece of the item enhancement market (Blacksmiths get to add a socket to geat), which is bigger than the market for crafted gear, but the supply is probably always going to exceed demand.</p>
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		<title>By: Valthan</title>
		<link>http://www.locksucks.com/2008/08/tailoring-in-wotlk/comment-page-1/#comment-710</link>
		<dc:creator>Valthan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate when tailors say their profession is useless after T5. Remind me again what Leatherworking has before after (hell even before) T5? Drums... thats about it. We don't even get an Epic BOP set to carry us well into T5 content. We just get screwed. At least Blacksmithing has the epic weapons, LW gets nothing at all. 

We get leg enchants for tanks and melee, while tailor get spell thread for the caster. Those cancel out. We have drums, you have nets, those cancel out. You have the FSW and PMC BOP sets that last well into T5 content, LW, nope... nothing.

If a professions needs a buff to make it more viable past giving you items to wear while leveling, its Leatherworking. And what hasn't blizzard released any information for yet... yep... Leatherworking... makes me a sad panda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate when tailors say their profession is useless after T5. Remind me again what Leatherworking has before after (hell even before) T5? Drums&#8230; thats about it. We don&#8217;t even get an Epic BOP set to carry us well into T5 content. We just get screwed. At least Blacksmithing has the epic weapons, LW gets nothing at all. </p>
<p>We get leg enchants for tanks and melee, while tailor get spell thread for the caster. Those cancel out. We have drums, you have nets, those cancel out. You have the FSW and PMC BOP sets that last well into T5 content, LW, nope&#8230; nothing.</p>
<p>If a professions needs a buff to make it more viable past giving you items to wear while leveling, its Leatherworking. And what hasn&#8217;t blizzard released any information for yet&#8230; yep&#8230; Leatherworking&#8230; makes me a sad panda.</p>
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