Warlock Glyphs

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Finally we have a glimpse into the much anticipated warlock glyphs in Wrath, thanks to Mmo-champion & WoR. Wowinsider beat me to posting about this, but I’ll do it anyway since I want to add my thoughts, links and all that fancy stuff.

Useless in PvP, almost useless in raids. Unless our job is to keep a mob banished for 4 hours straight, I don’t see why anyone would take a valuable slot and put this glyph in.

We will have to wait and see how raiding works in Wrath in order to judge this one, but it might have uses in PvP (if there will be such a thing as destruction PvP).

It’s basically another Nightfall - I’m hoping it will stack. Since Corruption is our bread and butter in PvP now, it should be more than useful, but then again, who knows what PvP will look like in the expansion.

Since DoTs - including Curse of Agony - tick every 3 seconds, it will be interesting to see how this 4 second increased duration works out. As Daniel mentioned on WI, if the exponential damage growth continues, it might mean up to 1,000ish more damage from CoA. Sounds good so far.

Near useless in PvE, and almost useless in PvP. 0.5 seconds will hardly make any difference, and for an ability with a two minute cooldown it ain’t worth it.

Now this one is amazing. Although everyone keeps nagging how Fear lasts forever, sometimes it feels like it breaks after one DoT tick. Since Fear is one of the most used spells in PvP, it will probably be in every warlock’s glyph slot.

If you specced for FG, this should be an amazing glyph for both PvE and PvP.

It’s hard to go through the numbers at this time (mostly because I don’t have all the facts), but in some occasions it might be useful with the new Shadow Bite ability.

Sounds useless to me since we usually keep imps phaseshifted, otherwise they die even to slightest AoE damage.

Seduction is a last resort when it comes to CC, and Wrath won’t change it. Useless.

For leveling, cool; everything else, keep looking.

Complete disappointment: even more useless with spell pushback changes.

Max rank Healthstone in Wrath restores 4280 health. If you add talented Demon Armor to the equation, it should restore about 7010 hit points. Sounds very good.

Unless you’re affliction with Improved Howl of Terror (makes it instant cast), you can skip this one. Otherwise, awesome.

It’s “meh” kinda glyph. Unless there’s nothing better to inscribe, this one is fine.

Hopefully we won’t be spamming Shadowbolts in raids anymore, but in case we do it’s priceless.

Another “meh” glyph. It’s good but I’m sure there’s better glyphs.

I’d take a 20% increase in any spell’s damage, especially SL since it has two benefits.

I hope it’s a minor glyph, otherwise there are far better. Obviously it’s only for PvE.

Obviously, if you’re specced this should be a great boost in both PvE and PvP. With some haste gear, you could even get it down to

Numbers, numbers… Did I ever mention I suck at math? Seems more like a PvE glyph.


What to use

What we know about inscription so far: there’s only 6 glyphs you can use at any given time, two minor, two lesser, and two greater glyphs. Since it doesn’t say in this preview which glyphs fit in which slot, it’s hard to figure out what I’ll use, but here’s an idea (PvP):


What’s missing

There’s surely something for everyone, but I have a feeling it’s not enough. Looking at other classes glyphs, some seem much more powerful, for example: Glyph of Natural Force + Glyph of Wrath, Glyph of Swiftmend, Glyph of Dispel Magic, Glyph of Icy Veins, Glyph of Remove Curse, and a bunch of others. I can’t help but complain: even though we got nice glyphs, somehow I feel other classes got much more potent ones, some of which even add another useful effect on the spell. Rogues are getting Glyph of Hemorrhage, which increases damage done to their target afflicted by hemo by 40% - WTF? That’s like giving 40% more damage on each target afflicted by Corruption, same thing. Thanks to Fwip for clarifying it in the comments below!


Later edit: there’s a few new glyphs added on September 6 in beta build 8905, as well as the following glyphs and changes added in build 8962:


What glyphs would I like to see


What do you think? Should Imps throw 5k firebolts and instakill rogues?

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12 Comments »

Comment by Smatter
2008-08-23 05:57:03

I must say, I am VERY disappointed by these glyphs. Horns makes the case perfectly: look at some of the other classes’ glyphs; Glyph of Swiftmend is absurdly good.

We had better get our damned green fire and a knockback ability to justify this utter disappointment.

 
Comment by Nicolas Williamson Subscribed to comments via email
2008-08-23 13:43:55

If a hunter’s chimaera can Froststorm breath for 5K crits, it’s about time our imp can too!

 
Comment by hydra
2008-08-23 18:35:09

I am waiting for the nerf on Glyph of the Gladiator. But I would be okay with that if we could just keep the “enables you to kick rogues out of battlegrounds with a 6 hour deserter debuff.” I would not complain about it. =P

 
Comment by hpavc
2008-08-23 20:07:23

* Imp should have a buff linked with blood pact, everyone affective by it gets some good news. I would like to see health regen, like 1% per 10sec, nothing amazing but worthy.
* VoidWalker should have some increases defense rating by 50% of the master’s spirit. Something to put him the the anti-crush realm of things rather than just a heal soak. His health isn’t the problem, its that it fades so damn fast.
* Succubus seduce should be instant cast with the glyph.
* Felpuppy should have an Eye for an Eye effect or similar spell reflection proc like glyph.
* Felguard is cool with his, I would rather see a structured damage effect though.

* At 80 the doom guard and the inferno should be pets, get rid of that metamorphosis crap.

* The warlock armors should also extend their effects to the pet.

 
Comment by Latus
2008-08-24 20:39:18

wtb glyph of the gladiator

 
Comment by Rockeroad Subscribed to comments via email
2008-08-25 01:11:37

Just so you know, imp is getting its health, avoidance and armor increased so we will use it in pve. Blizz doesnt want us to sac our demons AND NEITHER DO I! Im getting sick of sbolt spam! And yeah wtb glyph of the gladiator, shows those rogues who can kick whose asses!

 
Comment by Shin
2008-08-25 12:21:58

wow plz dont misinform ppl… CoAgony ticks every 2 SECONDS!

Comment by Horns
2008-08-25 12:59:19

You’re right, my bad

 
 
Comment by Darraxus
2008-08-27 20:32:20

How bout Glyph of Demon Kick. You kick the rogue causing him to be unable to use Cloak of Shadows….forever.

 
Comment by Shyraz
2008-09-16 15:31:12

I’d like to see a glyph that reduces the mana cost of Seed of Corruption, or better yet, just have them nerf the mana cost altogether.

 
Comment by Fwip
2008-09-18 06:00:24

I know I’m late on this comment, but the Hemo glyph increases the _bonus_ damage by 40%. Hemo puts a debuff on the target that increases physical damage taken (for a certain number of charges), that’s all this glyph affects.

 
Comment by steve
2008-10-22 12:02:19

I’m an affliction lock (53/8/0) and I’ve got both nightfall and Glyph of Corruption and now I enter a shadow trance all the time, so they appear to stack (sometimes going in a run of 3-5 shadow trances one after the other) took glyph of shadow bolt to compensate for the extra mana cost

 
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