Fear Just Got Nerfed
Guess what, Hornstradamus was right: one nerf down, six to go!
One of the best spells in our spellbook no longer benefits from the Contagion talent.
However, Fear is not the only spell which got nerfed: Polymorph, Hex, Viper Sting, Frost Nova, Chains of Ice, and even rogue poisons. Basically, any class talents which increased the dispel resistance now only work on “helpful” spells and DoTs, and no longer on “offensive” spells, particularly crowd controls.
But before you all nerdrage, I’ll say it’s actually a good change for overall arena balance. The dispel mechanic in PvP can be extremely frustrating and next to RNG is the most common reason for smashed keyboards. It (used to be) quite annoying to try to dispel a CC on your team mate only to have it resisted three, four times in a row. This fix should permanently put an end to it and make crowd control less of a factor in PvP.
Hopefully, burst damage will become less of a factor as well — perhaps then we can step back into serious PvP.
That image is 110% WIN. It would have been 120% if there had been one lonely Corruption button.
Or is the premise to run them to death?
Hey, that IS evil!
Easier to dispel Fear (and CC in general) isn’t as bad as you think it is, we’re should be already used to all the instant 100% ways that the various classes (and an entire race) can get out of it by now.
I hate to say it, but if fear were removed completly we wouldn’t be any worse off than we are now. It stopped being usefull when everyone else starting racking up the immunities.
lol.i love the image as well
I think people still have this concept of fear prior to it having diminishing returns.
Thank you for the update and letting us know about the other things that were changed too. Very helpful when I figure out if I even want to step back into arenas again. I don’t think this will change much in battlegrounds.
A+ on the image.
The concept of balance seems to involve nerfing fear all the time. Soon warriors and priests will be better at causing fear/horrors effects than warlocks, besides that. Or are they already? Sometimes I think so.
Warlocks need help.
Rogue Player: “Warlocks are OP.”
NERF.
*Kalgan and GC kick all Warlocks in the groin/underbelly*
“Tom, Warlocks feel they need help.”
“Sure, but it is fun! Fear is OP, after all!”
*laughter*
It must be stupidity, them not caring at all or the feeling they are getting away with it. Warlocks are a minority class by now. The guys who played locks because they once WERE overpowered already quit, and the old warlock players probably lost faith already.
So it does not matter so much, they let hunters and mages be victim classes till close to WOTLK release, so I doubt they will not do more for warlocks either.
Can you edit your post to read: “Fear nerfed, AGAIN!!”
Glad to read what you said /g about locks in your screenshot. Problem is the class dificulty no longer pays. So in other words if we continue playing locks in this situation we are sados
Funny that they keep nerfing Fear, but Stun and Silence effects are consider to be 100% balanced.
I will do a web site, where you can post your personal foto, your warlock details (name, realm, pvp kills, important achievements) and put RIP: Date you quit
This is actually a buff for warlocks. Devour Magic getting resisted hurts more than Dispel Magic or Cleanse.
BTW have you guys not seen the new updated patch notes? The conflag glyph now makes it so conflag does not eat up immo/shadowflame. Plus there are some other destro improvements that make it look more worthwile, still not as high as affli but its getting very close. Destro might be our pvp spec cuz its starting to get some burst spells.
The Conflagrate glyph is..beautiful. :’)
That said, I’d still like Pyroclasm to be a bit more reliable.
LOL.. Im starting to see the humor in this ongoing debacle, especially when people consider it a buff because Fear is so weak its almost useless. You have to laugh.
Neat, if I ever live past the 15 second mark this will really mean something… to my arena partner… possibly… maybe…
Warlock problem solved!
I finally managed to solve my pvp lock issues so I’ll be able to perform decent in arenas.
The solution is simple: I’ll roll a druid.
Since Blizz failed in providing a fix but merely a joke of an armor increase I decided to get something else for pvp.
From the way they handle the lock issue I don’t expect this class will work any time soon - 3.1 Ulduar won’t fix warlock and I cba to wait another 2 months for another Blizz failure.
I also cba to play affliction’s /wrist rotation in pve just to be able to compete with a mage who does the same dps in a much easier way.
So good luck fellow locks but I think you’ll need more than luck and an extra 1k armor to survive against melee classes.
I actually enjoy affliction in PvE.
Fear has been useless for a long time now, what I find even more laughable is its on “The Warlock” diminishing return, you know the one that also effects any alternative defenses, like Seduce and How of Terror(note not actually a terror effect and only lasts 8sec in theory)
I have to practically BEG to get invited to groups. This class is really messed up. Ret Pallys who used to get spit on are now getting picked over me? All I see for locks is nerf nerf nerf but when are our issues actually going to be addressed? IMO we were never OP and now we are so under powered it kinda brings tears to my eyes (QQ). Maybe I should have played a mage or druid? It’s sad that I’m even considering re-rolling but what other options do I have? I can’t get into groups, I’m in a raiding guild and they will not invite me to anything…maybe I’m just bad? Before WOTLK I always topped the DPS charts consistently. As for PVP I can’t even focus on that because of my damage. Apparently, doing 2.5-3K in a 25 man is NOT enough because just about everyone else still manages to out deeps me. I’m bad.
Don’t roll a Druid. Don’t re-roll at all. You’re simply setting yourself up to fail another game of “WoW Class Imbalance Russian Roulette”. I know you’ve invested a lot of time in this game, but it’s broken right now, and there is no sign or relief in sight. Giving Blizzard more money to play an unfinished game is not the answer.
On the pve note, I did a little experiment on max DPS.com comparing afflction locks (which have been updated for wrath) with frostfire spec mages and s.priests. I’m in decent gear, mostly 25-man naxx stuff at this point. So I plugged in my stats into the lock page with full raid buffs.
Lock max dps according to the site was about 3k with my stats.
So I plug the same stat numbers in for mages (adding more crit of course since mages run at a higher number. I went with about 30) and got 4.2k dps.
I do the same thing for s.priests… 4k dps.
So a mage and an s.priest with the same stats as me can pull 1k to 1.2k dps over me when I have a far more complex rotation than they do. *blink* GG Blizz.
I still raid with my lock. For a while I was the only one in guild who did. I don’t bother to look at the meters anymore. I know I’m doing the best I can with my class/spec and that’s all I can do. I don’t like seeing that I’m out dpsed by moonkins, mages, s.priests, dks, pallies, warriors, etc now.
I’m not asking to be the best dps class in the game. I’m not asking to be overpowered. I’m asking to be able to compete with the other dps classes/specs in the game as opposed to being at the bottom of the charts and doing equal, if not more work than they do to get my numbers.
As far as pvp goes… I get two shotted… by everything. Fear is the easiest CC to get out of in the game. Most classes have a built in way to escape it in addition to a trinket. It got to the point where it was no longer fun to even step into a BG so I rolled a DK for pvp like most locks I know. It’s fun but I still miss the good old days of SL/SL or UA where I had at least a chance to survive.
Fear….once one of my bestest firends when facing a cocky bloodelf paly who is destermined to beat me down only to be sent screaming in the opposite direction….no more. Thank you Blizzard for yet another lovely degredation of the class. Doomed in PVE, doomed in PVP, but I will never surrender, Bliz will never nerf me away from the warlock class, never!